Individual Matches Thread - Page 6

Smokin Joe · 19th June 2006, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1qa2ws

They will not win the World Cup.

I thought exactly the same thing.

keyser soze · 19th June 2006, 12:02

neither will england

ilunga · 19th June 2006, 12:28

Or Italy. Or France. Or Netherlands.

In fact everyone bar Argentina and Spain might as well bugger off home now. They're all rubbish!

DarkStar · 19th June 2006, 12:45

And Ecuador

stump · 19th June 2006, 16:12

Hi,

I dont understand the Iran - Angola match (21 june).

I look BetBrain, and Iran is the favorite with an odds average of 2.49 (2.71 max) and Angola have an odds average of 2.61(2.8 max).

On BF, The Irand odds is at 2.84/2.86 in back/lay and the Angola odds is at 2.72/2.76 in back/lay.

Thanks

DarkStar · 19th June 2006, 19:20

Betbrain run a bot which collects their numbers from a lot of bookmakers. The average price will reflect the fact that traditional bookmakers and their generous overround always lay considerably lower than BF layers, hence the better prices on BF. It is probable that their bot is not collecting BF prices for the world cup since BF prices are almost invariably better than bookmaker prices and I saw no BF prices quoted.

DarkStar · 19th June 2006, 19:27

I just had a look at the England - Sweden prices on BF. These look horribly askew in favour of the draw, which is currently 2.76 back 2.78 lay. Or has Sven and all his Swedish mates backing the draw just relentlessly pushed the price in? The No Next Goal is currently at c. 6.6 also, surely they can't just push the ball around the park for 90 minutes????????

steved · 20th June 2006, 08:52

FIFA rankings has draw at 3.45 in England Sweden match...suits them both if it is a draw though...

Bad lay day yesterday!

Today

Lay Poland at 1.82 (2.56 on FIFA)…dodgy nothing to play for match...Wanchope's last international, any other angles?

Lay Paraguay at 1.92 (2.27 on FIFA)…T&T trying, but worried they wont have the legs…

Perhaps I should lay Germany as FIFA has them at 1.54 but that is bookie price. As rankings have badly underestimated Ecuador so far it looks like a Germany lay is in order, but I am not about to start making it up as I go along, so no bet!

DarkStar · 20th June 2006, 09:54

Well the Germany Ecuador game has real potential for an upset. It will be intersting to see how they manage without Tenorio upfront, and my view is I will be laying Germany with a view to either buying back within 10 -15 minutes for (hopefully) a small profit, or not, depending on how Ecuador shape up. This strat paid out for me bigtime in the Spain game last night, and it looks a nice one to adopt where you have largely unknown quantities in action.

pj · 20th June 2006, 15:47

im with you dark star,cant for the life of me see how germany are 4/9 and ecuador 7/1.

JohnnyK · 20th June 2006, 15:47

I don't often bet on Match Odds in Soccer but Paraguay look very big at 1.92 to beat T&T today. They are by far the better of the two teams, and it won't suit T&T now they can't just camp in their own area.

Price before the start of the tournament was around 1.55 and that's got to be more accurate. Certainly 1.92 looks too big and I have had a cheeky nibble.

pj · 20th June 2006, 16:08

3 mins and behind already,what a shit footy judge i am.

still,83 mins to go.

ilunga · 20th June 2006, 16:50

This is the Ecuador we all know and love. Two games too late

Maybe they just want to play England.

keyser soze · 20th June 2006, 17:43

will make tonight a good game now because both will want to face ecuador

stump · 21st June 2006, 05:28

Hi,

France - Togo

I read that:

The selector Otto Pfister promised some changes in is team against France.
"I have four or five players who were not aligned yet and with which I will try to give a little time of play so that they forge experiment", it explained.

If its true, i dont know yet. But, the Togo players are already not strong, if they put the remplacants...
Miss only the cheque (we know never) and we go to be qualified.

If this news is true, the french odds will go more down i think.

I will come back for the french squad. I think we go to have 2 forward.

DarkStar · 21st June 2006, 05:41

Looks like the market knew about the England game being a prearranged outcome.

ilunga · 21st June 2006, 06:40

Hi Stump. Useful info. Do you mean some Togo players might play in order to pick up a bonus?

steved · 21st June 2006, 08:49

Back Iran at 2.94 (1.82 on FIFA)

Lay Argentina at 2.14 (3.13 on FIFA) Should perhaps be backing Holland(can get 4.4 as opposed to 2.56 on FIFA), but want draw running for me in match where plenty being rested and Argentina win group with draw.

stump · 21st June 2006, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilunga

Do you mean some Togo players might play in order to pick up a bonus?

Sorry, i dont understand the question. But i mean nothing, just the coach said he go to put few remplacants. The holders are already not good.

Its only an info, but i'm not sure if it's go to be true.

The Togo have 0 points and it's sure they will be happy to have one and go to be motivate in front the france for to save their WC.
But it's really a poor squad and the players think and try only to show themselfs because it's the WC.

Normaly there is no picture, the france go to win. But with the france who know ???
If they dont win by 2 goals tomorrow, they will be very poor. The Togo players are not all professionnals.

It's not necessary to push "mémé" (grand mother) in the nettles for to win.

Smokin Joe · 21st June 2006, 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by stump

It's not necessary to push "mémé" (grand mother) in the nettles for to win.

What a line, and it loses nothing in translation

Stump, that made me laugh........

19th June 2006, 12:02	#102 (permalink)
keyser soze Spreads Dept. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Golf Coast Age: 42 Posts: 14,010 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Individual Matches Thread neither will england __________________ "Napoleon was advancing unopposed through the low countries until his army was engaged by Team GB."

19th June 2006, 12:28	#103 (permalink)
ilunga Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: london Posts: 5,791	Re: Individual Matches Thread Or Italy. Or France. Or Netherlands. In fact everyone bar Argentina and Spain might as well bugger off home now. They're all rubbish!

19th June 2006, 12:45	#104 (permalink)
DarkStar Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, Devon /Fredericia Denmark Age: 51 Posts: 484	Re: Individual Matches Thread And Ecuador

19th June 2006, 16:12	#105 (permalink)
stump Magnificent Bastard Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 48°51'54.65"N ; 2°16'23.98"E Posts: 156	Re: Individual Matches Thread Hi, I dont understand the Iran - Angola match (21 june). I look BetBrain, and Iran is the favorite with an odds average of 2.49 (2.71 max) and Angola have an odds average of 2.61(2.8 max). On BF, The Irand odds is at 2.84/2.86 in back/lay and the Angola odds is at 2.72/2.76 in back/lay. Thanks __________________ It is true that I was wrong... but I remain convinced that I could have been right... Last edited by stump : 19th June 2006 at 17:32.

19th June 2006, 19:20	#106 (permalink)
DarkStar Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, Devon /Fredericia Denmark Age: 51 Posts: 484	Re: Individual Matches Thread Betbrain run a bot which collects their numbers from a lot of bookmakers. The average price will reflect the fact that traditional bookmakers and their generous overround always lay considerably lower than BF layers, hence the better prices on BF. It is probable that their bot is not collecting BF prices for the world cup since BF prices are almost invariably better than bookmaker prices and I saw no BF prices quoted.

19th June 2006, 19:27	#107 (permalink)
DarkStar Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, Devon /Fredericia Denmark Age: 51 Posts: 484	Re: Individual Matches Thread I just had a look at the England - Sweden prices on BF. These look horribly askew in favour of the draw, which is currently 2.76 back 2.78 lay. Or has Sven and all his Swedish mates backing the draw just relentlessly pushed the price in? The No Next Goal is currently at c. 6.6 also, surely they can't just push the ball around the park for 90 minutes????????

20th June 2006, 08:52	#108 (permalink)
steved Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 893	Re: Individual Matches Thread FIFA rankings has draw at 3.45 in England Sweden match...suits them both if it is a draw though... Bad lay day yesterday! Today Lay Poland at 1.82 (2.56 on FIFA)…dodgy nothing to play for match...Wanchope's last international, any other angles? Lay Paraguay at 1.92 (2.27 on FIFA)…T&T trying, but worried they wont have the legs… Perhaps I should lay Germany as FIFA has them at 1.54 but that is bookie price. As rankings have badly underestimated Ecuador so far it looks like a Germany lay is in order, but I am not about to start making it up as I go along, so no bet!

20th June 2006, 09:54	#109 (permalink)
DarkStar Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, Devon /Fredericia Denmark Age: 51 Posts: 484	Re: Individual Matches Thread Well the Germany Ecuador game has real potential for an upset. It will be intersting to see how they manage without Tenorio upfront, and my view is I will be laying Germany with a view to either buying back within 10 -15 minutes for (hopefully) a small profit, or not, depending on how Ecuador shape up. This strat paid out for me bigtime in the Spain game last night, and it looks a nice one to adopt where you have largely unknown quantities in action.

20th June 2006, 15:47	#110 (permalink)
pj Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: yorkshire Age: 47 Posts: 1,172	Re: Individual Matches Thread im with you dark star,cant for the life of me see how germany are 4/9 and ecuador 7/1.

20th June 2006, 15:47	#111 (permalink)
JohnnyK Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Age: 28 Posts: 6,395	Re: Individual Matches Thread I don't often bet on Match Odds in Soccer but Paraguay look very big at 1.92 to beat T&T today. They are by far the better of the two teams, and it won't suit T&T now they can't just camp in their own area. Price before the start of the tournament was around 1.55 and that's got to be more accurate. Certainly 1.92 looks too big and I have had a cheeky nibble.

20th June 2006, 16:08	#112 (permalink)
pj Gold Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: yorkshire Age: 47 Posts: 1,172	Re: Individual Matches Thread 3 mins and behind already,what a shit footy judge i am. still,83 mins to go.

20th June 2006, 16:50	#113 (permalink)
ilunga Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: london Posts: 5,791	Re: Individual Matches Thread This is the Ecuador we all know and love. Two games too late Maybe they just want to play England.

20th June 2006, 17:43	#114 (permalink)
keyser soze Spreads Dept. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Golf Coast Age: 42 Posts: 14,010 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Individual Matches Thread will make tonight a good game now because both will want to face ecuador __________________ "Napoleon was advancing unopposed through the low countries until his army was engaged by Team GB."

21st June 2006, 05:28	#115 (permalink)
stump Magnificent Bastard Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 48°51'54.65"N ; 2°16'23.98"E Posts: 156	Re: Individual Matches Thread Hi, France - Togo I read that: The selector Otto Pfister promised some changes in is team against France. "I have four or five players who were not aligned yet and with which I will try to give a little time of play so that they forge experiment", it explained. If its true, i dont know yet. But, the Togo players are already not strong, if they put the remplacants... Miss only the cheque (we know never) and we go to be qualified. If this news is true, the french odds will go more down i think. I will come back for the french squad. I think we go to have 2 forward. __________________ It is true that I was wrong... but I remain convinced that I could have been right...

21st June 2006, 05:41	#116 (permalink)
DarkStar Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, Devon /Fredericia Denmark Age: 51 Posts: 484	Re: Individual Matches Thread Looks like the market knew about the England game being a prearranged outcome.

21st June 2006, 06:40	#117 (permalink)
ilunga Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: london Posts: 5,791	Re: Individual Matches Thread Hi Stump. Useful info. Do you mean some Togo players might play in order to pick up a bonus?

21st June 2006, 08:49	#118 (permalink)
steved Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 893	Re: Individual Matches Thread Back Iran at 2.94 (1.82 on FIFA) Lay Argentina at 2.14 (3.13 on FIFA) Should perhaps be backing Holland(can get 4.4 as opposed to 2.56 on FIFA), but want draw running for me in match where plenty being rested and Argentina win group with draw.

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