Opinions Wanted

007 · 14th June 2007, 18:21

Hi Guy's I regularly contribute to other forums but this is my first post on here...

Whilst appearing to do so I have not come here just to pimp.

I am here in the home of the Betting fraternity and would welcome your honest views, good bad or indifferent on our new website, which is very relevant.

This is not a ploy to generate traffic (as we are doing well on our own), I would just appreciate your views in the nicest possible way

www.swingform.com

thegreat · 14th June 2007, 18:53

How much do you charge ?

Fat Ron · 14th June 2007, 19:19

007, what are your views on Pugging please?

patrickstar · 14th June 2007, 21:08

How much do you charge?

and, some other questions/feedback:

1. Where do you get the top ten prices that you have tipped? (seem to be 1/10th of win odds)

2. How is your product superior to say tour-tips?

3. Do you bet on golf yourself?

4. If the data is so good then why not just use it yourself to bet? Why risk diminishing or losing your edge by selling it to others?

5. How much do you charge?

keyser soze · 14th June 2007, 21:14

has anyone asked the fee?

thegreat · 14th June 2007, 21:22

Dont think so !!

How much do you think it will cost ?

Hacker · 14th June 2007, 21:29

is your surname fleming?

Rosebud · 14th June 2007, 21:36

Welcome 007.... hopefully won't be long before you get the Gold finger in here. Just 3 questions from me.

What would be the expected level of investment required from a subscriber in order to receive the benefits of your service?

Say there were three of us in a room, and one of us said something like "How much do you charge for your service?".... what would your answer be?

Suppose I had £20 knocking around on the mantelpiece. Would that be enough to get your service?

007 · 15th June 2007, 05:51

Hi Guys... Many thanks for all your interst and you have brought up an interesting fact already that we don't publicise the price until you have logged on as a user, you see it was worth posting

Will do my best to answer most...

Pricing was a very difficult one to consider and we thought long and hard over it. Many offer monthly subsciptions of £25 to £50 but we only charge by tournament (which I am sure others will now copy). Knowing people will return once they try it, we have projected it at £1 per tournament, whilst this is very cheap, we felt it more important to generate interest and to that end it seems to have worked.

Asking someone to put their hand in their pocket for £25 without knowing what they are going to get is asking a lot, whereas for the sake of £1 we were hoping people would give it a try - like it - and come back. We are looking for a long term relationship, not a short term sting.

People can desposit as little as a pound or as much as £250, we have seen all manner of payments TBH, some have jumped straight in whilst others have taken a more conservative initial route.

Yes I have laid bets for some years (and played off +3 before going Pro - for others that may ask what I know about Golf). Having used the system manually for a few years to great success, my brother then introduced me to the power of the database, thereafter it took on a whole new level of accuracy and scope. We do back on the markets and it is such which has generated the revenue to launch the website, don't forget I see the data before you do

so I have nothing whatsoever to lose by selling it.

I would never dis any competitor or make comparisons, AKA TT; we believe our offering is unique and has filled a massive void in the market place.

007 · 15th June 2007, 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacker

is your surname fleming?

No it isn't !

You can find me if you hunt around the site

Or did I miss a joke here ?

ralph milne · 15th June 2007, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickstar

1. Where do you get the top ten prices that you have tipped? (seem to be 1/10th of win odds)

This didnt seem to be answered.

Where do you do your top 10 betting? Its very rare to get 1/10th of the top outright price available in this market. If its a tip should you not state the actual price and where its available?

007 · 15th June 2007, 15:18

I realise Top 10 betting is mainly reserved for the exchanges & yes you are correct, the prices for top10 are calculated at 1/10 of the outright place. i find this roughly the case for most players, though realise you may find greater/less than this in some instances.

At the end of the day it's a tipping not a betting site and prices are there merely to be indicative at time of publication.

I take on board what you have said and will see if we can express it better.

regards 007

14th June 2007, 18:21	#1 (permalink)
007 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7	Opinions Wanted Hi Guy's I regularly contribute to other forums but this is my first post on here... Whilst appearing to do so I have not come here just to pimp. I am here in the home of the Betting fraternity and would welcome your honest views, good bad or indifferent on our new website, which is very relevant. This is not a ploy to generate traffic (as we are doing well on our own), I would just appreciate your views in the nicest possible way www.swingform.com

14th June 2007, 18:53	#2 (permalink)
thegreat Excluded Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wigan Posts: 10,742	Re: Opinions Wanted How much do you charge ? __________________ ___________ I'm a working man from Lancashire And I want a Chippy Tea !!!!

14th June 2007, 19:19	#3 (permalink)
Fat Ron Bronze Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Down on my arse Posts: 274	Re: Opinions Wanted 007, what are your views on Pugging please?

14th June 2007, 21:08	#4 (permalink)
patrickstar Sir Realist Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 28 Posts: 8,030	Re: Opinions Wanted How much do you charge? and, some other questions/feedback: 1. Where do you get the top ten prices that you have tipped? (seem to be 1/10th of win odds) 2. How is your product superior to say tour-tips? 3. Do you bet on golf yourself? 4. If the data is so good then why not just use it yourself to bet? Why risk diminishing or losing your edge by selling it to others? 5. How much do you charge?

14th June 2007, 21:14	#5 (permalink)
keyser soze Spreads Dept. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Golf Coast Age: 42 Posts: 13,873 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Opinions Wanted has anyone asked the fee?

14th June 2007, 21:22	#6 (permalink)
thegreat Excluded Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wigan Posts: 10,742	Re: Opinions Wanted Dont think so !! How much do you think it will cost ? __________________ ___________ I'm a working man from Lancashire And I want a Chippy Tea !!!!

14th June 2007, 21:29	#7 (permalink)
Hacker Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,283	Re: Opinions Wanted is your surname fleming?

14th June 2007, 21:36	#8 (permalink)
Rosebud Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,669 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Opinions Wanted Welcome 007.... hopefully won't be long before you get the Gold finger in here. Just 3 questions from me. What would be the expected level of investment required from a subscriber in order to receive the benefits of your service? Say there were three of us in a room, and one of us said something like "How much do you charge for your service?".... what would your answer be? Suppose I had £20 knocking around on the mantelpiece. Would that be enough to get your service?

15th June 2007, 05:51	#9 (permalink)
007 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7	Re: Opinions Wanted Hi Guys... Many thanks for all your interst and you have brought up an interesting fact already that we don't publicise the price until you have logged on as a user, you see it was worth posting Will do my best to answer most... Pricing was a very difficult one to consider and we thought long and hard over it. Many offer monthly subsciptions of £25 to £50 but we only charge by tournament (which I am sure others will now copy). Knowing people will return once they try it, we have projected it at £1 per tournament, whilst this is very cheap, we felt it more important to generate interest and to that end it seems to have worked. Asking someone to put their hand in their pocket for £25 without knowing what they are going to get is asking a lot, whereas for the sake of £1 we were hoping people would give it a try - like it - and come back. We are looking for a long term relationship, not a short term sting. People can desposit as little as a pound or as much as £250, we have seen all manner of payments TBH, some have jumped straight in whilst others have taken a more conservative initial route. Yes I have laid bets for some years (and played off +3 before going Pro - for others that may ask what I know about Golf). Having used the system manually for a few years to great success, my brother then introduced me to the power of the database, thereafter it took on a whole new level of accuracy and scope. We do back on the markets and it is such which has generated the revenue to launch the website, don't forget I see the data before you do so I have nothing whatsoever to lose by selling it. I would never dis any competitor or make comparisons, AKA TT; we believe our offering is unique and has filled a massive void in the market place. Last edited by 007 : 15th June 2007 at 06:00.

15th June 2007, 15:18	#12 (permalink)
007 Bronze Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 7	Re: Opinions Wanted I realise Top 10 betting is mainly reserved for the exchanges & yes you are correct, the prices for top10 are calculated at 1/10 of the outright place. i find this roughly the case for most players, though realise you may find greater/less than this in some instances. At the end of the day it's a tipping not a betting site and prices are there merely to be indicative at time of publication. I take on board what you have said and will see if we can express it better. regards 007 Last edited by 007 : 15th June 2007 at 18:25.

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