Individual Matches Thread - Page 8

colo colo · 22nd June 2006, 07:57

On a relative basis I think refs have been fairly decent. Not great but none have fucked up a game like Spain vs South Korea or Italy vs South Korea in the last World Cup.

Same applies to the players. It seems there's been less playacting, diving or even time wasting than in previous tournaments.

Re Kewell vs Merk. Harry was a lucky boy imo. Clearly Blatter and his cronies had never heard of a "drongo" before.

steved · 22nd June 2006, 08:33

Today

Lay Ghana at 2.14 (7.69 on FIFA!!!) will sell their supremacy on spreads as well. USA 1.54 shots on FIFA, should really be backing them, but like yesterday, advancement the aim, and if Italy winning and Ghana drawing they will shut up shop.

Lay Italy at 2.06 (3.57 on FIFA) and sell supremacy. Czech higher in FIFA rankings, but want draw on side again.

Small lay Brazil at 1.29 (1.59 FIFA) though Japan need to win to progress, so that might be their undoing as they push forward.

Back Croatia at 2.5 (1.85 shots on FIFA)

Cupid Stunt · 22nd June 2006, 12:42

Although it was a superb effort by the Americans to avoid defeat against Italy with only 9 men for 44 minutes, I think the Azzurri's ineptitude on the day contributed in a big way.
Every time I've watched Ghana I have been very impressed with them and I just have to back them at above evens personally.
I've also had some of the 129/1 about them winning the W.C with a view to trading back hopefully.

ilunga · 22nd June 2006, 13:13

Cupid, I can't agree at all. However, I know someone who does. I'm going to let him express his thoughts on the game...

hi all, I am Ghanaian and for that matter,it is obvious for me to think my country will make it to the next stage by beating the US.But there is more to that. We sure did loose to the Italian side which I think was due to the fact that we were freshers.This time round after beating the Czech,we stand the chance of getting in there.US is no much for us cos our boys are well compased and ready for the game.Now I am convinced that even if we met the BIG favourites ,we will beat them.

ilunga · 22nd June 2006, 13:27

Now he's left the room I can say it how I see it.

As good as Ghana were against the Czechs it's a big ask for them to perform like that again when the pressure is on. They had nothing to lose in that game. Their price was too big, and they really turned it on. Much, much harder to back today at 2.2. Firstly, their two goalscorers are banned. Gyan and Muntari are huge players for them. Matthew Amoah hasn't looked up to it. They have no like for like replacement for Muntari. It's hard to see where the goals will come from. I don't think they will qualify. If they do, I think they will give Brazil (or whoever) a really good game and could go very far, but people are getting carried away with that one win, and 2.2 Ghana is the lay of the week imho.

JohnnyK · 22nd June 2006, 14:04

I'm right with you Ilunga

On the same basis I backed Paraguay and laid Ivory Coast, I'm taking the pre-tournament odds as a better indicator of a team's standard than the current odds, which have overreacted to two matches.

Therefore I'm laying Ghana @ 2.25. USA are a better team than Ghana.

Was tempted to lay Italy on the same basis, especially with their propensity for getting Draws when required, but this Czech Republic team is very much on the way down and I just can't have them.

ilunga · 22nd June 2006, 15:12

I wouldn't say USA are a better side but I think they're more disciplined, better organised, have more composure and more experience. Ghana were 500/1 shots before the off, and touched 800 after losing to Italy. One win and now they're 100/1 shots? Not for me.

In the Italy-Czech game I'm backing Totti MOM and the 0-0 HT draw at 2.8. I'm sure it will be cagey early on. Both sides seem to be playing just one up front. If Ghana are ahead early then we should see an entertaining second half. but the first half will probably be dull.

keyser soze · 22nd June 2006, 16:02

Cupid Stunt · 22nd June 2006, 16:21

1-0 Ghana

Cupid Stunt · 22nd June 2006, 16:24

Now currently trading at 74/1...so I can trade some of the 129/1 back now.
This game is great when it goes to plan.
Shame it doesn't always do so.

manchestermike · 22nd June 2006, 16:30

Overs in both games looks a good call now with teams needing to score to stay in the competition

Cupid Stunt · 22nd June 2006, 16:41

1-1

Cupid Stunt · 22nd June 2006, 16:45

Ghana back in front.
Good call on the overs man.

manchestermike · 22nd June 2006, 16:45

Unbelievable penalty decision!

Overs is in though

JohnnyK · 22nd June 2006, 16:46

More shocking refereeing. Sorry but it really does ruin the tournament IMO. Especially when it fucks up all my bets!

JohnnyK · 22nd June 2006, 16:52

On a separate note, I wonder why Football isn't taking off in America? Imagine tuning in to watch this nonsense. 2 men sent off for passing within 5 yards of Italians, and now a penalty awarded for the grave offence of going up for a header against Ghana.

It's embarrassing for the game.

keyser soze · 22nd June 2006, 16:54

espn.com are bigging it up. but then theyve got the coverage. and i noticed a huge advert at the side of the court in dallas last week.

ilunga · 22nd June 2006, 16:57

I might agree Johnny if I hadn't bought tournament red cards

Ghana far from safe here. I'm laying at 1.12 to qualify.

Cupid Stunt · 22nd June 2006, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilunga

Cupid, I can't agree at all. However, I know someone who does. I'm going to let him express his thoughts on the game...

hi all, I am Ghanaian and for that matter,it is obvious for me to think my country will make it to the next stage by beating the US.But there is more to that. We sure did loose to the Italian side which I think was due to the fact that we were freshers.This time round after beating the Czech,we stand the chance of getting in there.US is no much for us cos our boys are well compased and ready for the game.Now I am convinced that even if we met the BIG favourites ,we will beat them.

Ilunga.....does this guy have a tipping website I can look at?

steved · 23rd June 2006, 09:30

Today

Lay Spain at 1.2 (1.67 on FIFA)

Lay Ukraine at 1.67 (4.0 on FIFA!!!)..sell supremacy…and backed Tunisia at 6.8 with half of profit I would win if match ends in draw.

Lay Switzerland at 2.16 (2.86 on FIFA)

Go on Tunisia!!

22nd June 2006, 07:57	#141 (permalink)
colo colo Gold Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,017	Re: Individual Matches Thread On a relative basis I think refs have been fairly decent. Not great but none have fucked up a game like Spain vs South Korea or Italy vs South Korea in the last World Cup. Same applies to the players. It seems there's been less playacting, diving or even time wasting than in previous tournaments. Re Kewell vs Merk. Harry was a lucky boy imo. Clearly Blatter and his cronies had never heard of a "drongo" before. __________________ "He's on his final hole. He's about 455 yards away, he's gonna hit about a 2 iron I think."

22nd June 2006, 08:33	#142 (permalink)
steved Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 875	Re: Individual Matches Thread Today Lay Ghana at 2.14 (7.69 on FIFA!!!) will sell their supremacy on spreads as well. USA 1.54 shots on FIFA, should really be backing them, but like yesterday, advancement the aim, and if Italy winning and Ghana drawing they will shut up shop. Lay Italy at 2.06 (3.57 on FIFA) and sell supremacy. Czech higher in FIFA rankings, but want draw on side again. Small lay Brazil at 1.29 (1.59 FIFA) though Japan need to win to progress, so that might be their undoing as they push forward. Back Croatia at 2.5 (1.85 shots on FIFA)

22nd June 2006, 12:42	#143 (permalink)
Cupid Stunt Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London Posts: 535	Re: Individual Matches Thread Although it was a superb effort by the Americans to avoid defeat against Italy with only 9 men for 44 minutes, I think the Azzurri's ineptitude on the day contributed in a big way. Every time I've watched Ghana I have been very impressed with them and I just have to back them at above evens personally. I've also had some of the 129/1 about them winning the W.C with a view to trading back hopefully.

22nd June 2006, 13:13	#144 (permalink)
ilunga Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: london Posts: 5,724	Re: Individual Matches Thread Cupid, I can't agree at all. However, I know someone who does. I'm going to let him express his thoughts on the game... hi all, I am Ghanaian and for that matter,it is obvious for me to think my country will make it to the next stage by beating the US.But there is more to that. We sure did loose to the Italian side which I think was due to the fact that we were freshers.This time round after beating the Czech,we stand the chance of getting in there.US is no much for us cos our boys are well compased and ready for the game.Now I am convinced that even if we met the BIG favourites ,we will beat them.

22nd June 2006, 13:27	#145 (permalink)
ilunga Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: london Posts: 5,724	Re: Individual Matches Thread Now he's left the room I can say it how I see it. As good as Ghana were against the Czechs it's a big ask for them to perform like that again when the pressure is on. They had nothing to lose in that game. Their price was too big, and they really turned it on. Much, much harder to back today at 2.2. Firstly, their two goalscorers are banned. Gyan and Muntari are huge players for them. Matthew Amoah hasn't looked up to it. They have no like for like replacement for Muntari. It's hard to see where the goals will come from. I don't think they will qualify. If they do, I think they will give Brazil (or whoever) a really good game and could go very far, but people are getting carried away with that one win, and 2.2 Ghana is the lay of the week imho.

22nd June 2006, 14:04	#146 (permalink)
JohnnyK Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Age: 28 Posts: 6,361	Re: Individual Matches Thread I'm right with you Ilunga On the same basis I backed Paraguay and laid Ivory Coast, I'm taking the pre-tournament odds as a better indicator of a team's standard than the current odds, which have overreacted to two matches. Therefore I'm laying Ghana @ 2.25. USA are a better team than Ghana. Was tempted to lay Italy on the same basis, especially with their propensity for getting Draws when required, but this Czech Republic team is very much on the way down and I just can't have them.

22nd June 2006, 15:12	#147 (permalink)
ilunga Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: london Posts: 5,724	Re: Individual Matches Thread I wouldn't say USA are a better side but I think they're more disciplined, better organised, have more composure and more experience. Ghana were 500/1 shots before the off, and touched 800 after losing to Italy. One win and now they're 100/1 shots? Not for me. In the Italy-Czech game I'm backing Totti MOM and the 0-0 HT draw at 2.8. I'm sure it will be cagey early on. Both sides seem to be playing just one up front. If Ghana are ahead early then we should see an entertaining second half. but the first half will probably be dull.

22nd June 2006, 16:02	#148 (permalink)
keyser soze Spreads Dept. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Golf Coast Age: 42 Posts: 13,873 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Individual Matches Thread xx __________________ "Napoleon was advancing unopposed through the low countries until his army was engaged by Team GB." Last edited by keyser soze : 22nd June 2006 at 16:09.

22nd June 2006, 16:21	#149 (permalink)
Cupid Stunt Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London Posts: 535	Re: Individual Matches Thread 1-0 Ghana

22nd June 2006, 16:24	#150 (permalink)
Cupid Stunt Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London Posts: 535	Re: Individual Matches Thread Now currently trading at 74/1...so I can trade some of the 129/1 back now. This game is great when it goes to plan. Shame it doesn't always do so.

22nd June 2006, 16:30	#151 (permalink)
manchestermike Forza Bawdeeps Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 640	Re: Individual Matches Thread Overs in both games looks a good call now with teams needing to score to stay in the competition __________________ Geoff Bent, Roger Byrne, Eddie Colman, Duncan Edwards, Mark Jones, David Pegg, Tommy Taylor, Liam Whelan, Walter Crickmer, Bert Whalley, Tom Curry, Alf Clarke, Don Davies, George Follows, Tom Jackson, Archie Ledbrooke, Henry Rose, Eric Thompson, Frank Swift, Kenneth Rayment, Bela Miklos, Willie Satinoff, Tom Cable RIP - We will never forget - February 6th 1958 - The Flowers of Manchester

22nd June 2006, 16:41	#152 (permalink)
Cupid Stunt Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London Posts: 535	Re: Individual Matches Thread 1-1

22nd June 2006, 16:45	#153 (permalink)
Cupid Stunt Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London Posts: 535	Re: Individual Matches Thread Ghana back in front. Good call on the overs man.

22nd June 2006, 16:45	#154 (permalink)
manchestermike Forza Bawdeeps Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 640	Re: Individual Matches Thread Unbelievable penalty decision! Overs is in though __________________ Geoff Bent, Roger Byrne, Eddie Colman, Duncan Edwards, Mark Jones, David Pegg, Tommy Taylor, Liam Whelan, Walter Crickmer, Bert Whalley, Tom Curry, Alf Clarke, Don Davies, George Follows, Tom Jackson, Archie Ledbrooke, Henry Rose, Eric Thompson, Frank Swift, Kenneth Rayment, Bela Miklos, Willie Satinoff, Tom Cable RIP - We will never forget - February 6th 1958 - The Flowers of Manchester

22nd June 2006, 16:46	#155 (permalink)
JohnnyK Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Age: 28 Posts: 6,361	Re: Individual Matches Thread More shocking refereeing. Sorry but it really does ruin the tournament IMO. Especially when it fucks up all my bets!

22nd June 2006, 16:52	#156 (permalink)
JohnnyK Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Age: 28 Posts: 6,361	Re: Individual Matches Thread On a separate note, I wonder why Football isn't taking off in America? Imagine tuning in to watch this nonsense. 2 men sent off for passing within 5 yards of Italians, and now a penalty awarded for the grave offence of going up for a header against Ghana. It's embarrassing for the game.

22nd June 2006, 16:54	#157 (permalink)
keyser soze Spreads Dept. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Golf Coast Age: 42 Posts: 13,873 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Individual Matches Thread espn.com are bigging it up. but then theyve got the coverage. and i noticed a huge advert at the side of the court in dallas last week. __________________ "Napoleon was advancing unopposed through the low countries until his army was engaged by Team GB."

22nd June 2006, 16:57	#158 (permalink)
ilunga Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: london Posts: 5,724	Re: Individual Matches Thread I might agree Johnny if I hadn't bought tournament red cards Ghana far from safe here. I'm laying at 1.12 to qualify.

23rd June 2006, 09:30	#160 (permalink)
steved Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 875	Re: Individual Matches Thread Today Lay Spain at 1.2 (1.67 on FIFA) Lay Ukraine at 1.67 (4.0 on FIFA!!!)..sell supremacy…and backed Tunisia at 6.8 with half of profit I would win if match ends in draw. Lay Switzerland at 2.16 (2.86 on FIFA) Go on Tunisia!!

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