And So England Finally Win A Match

BlindBadger · 16th January 2007, 16:40

Ok so it was "only" against New Zealand but we had to start somewhere.

Thought there were a few positives to come out of the game - Flintoff goes without saying - but we kind of knew what he could do anyway. I though Jimmy Anderson bowled very well, and in Monty and Darymple we finally seem to have a pair of spinners who can slow an game down and regain some sort of control. If we could just find an opening bat along with Strauss - then i think we could be getting somewhere. I like the idea of Mal Loye at the top of the order. He may not always come off but if he does we could be 55/1 off 9 overs rather than 28/0. I know what i'd prefer.

You could then have Vaughan at 3, Bell at 4, Collingwood 5, Freddie 6, The Keeper at 7 (whether thats Nixon or not), then Darymple, Lewis, Anderson and then Monty.

Not for one second am i saying this team could live with Australia, South Africa, Pakistan or India - but it could possibly stop us getting sucked down into the bottom of the pile.

Thoughts?

Loose Cannon · 16th January 2007, 21:33

I agree. I think it was dangerous for England to start that slowly when you have already got the longest tail in world cricket. If you start slowly and cautious and still lose wickets to either world class balls (which happens) or freakish accidents (which happens a lot with England - suicidal runouts) you are really in trouble. With the lineup they have at the moment I think they have to go for broke. Then again the lack of early runs could be down to a complete lack of confidence. It just seems silly that chasing 207 should be made hard and coming down to the penultimate ball (what if Flintoff hadn't got 2 runs but only a single of the 3rd ball of the last over - leaving Dalrymple on strike?). It should never have been close but they made it close.

robz · 16th January 2007, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlindBadger

Not for one second am i saying this team could live with Australia, South Africa, Pakistan or India - but it could possibly stop us getting sucked down into the bottom of the pile.

Thoughts?

Sorry, when it comes to ODI's England ARE the bottom of the pile. It is NZ getting sucked down towards there at the moment.

BlindBadger · 17th January 2007, 09:59

Robz - by bottom of the pile i literally meant with Bangladesh, Zimbabwe et al.

Not bottom of the best, bottom of the lot

robz · 17th January 2007, 10:27

Ahhhh the bottom of THAT pile.

Nahhh, even England wouldn't go that low ...

16th January 2007, 16:40	#1 (permalink)
BlindBadger Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 127	And So England Finally Win A Match Ok so it was "only" against New Zealand but we had to start somewhere. Thought there were a few positives to come out of the game - Flintoff goes without saying - but we kind of knew what he could do anyway. I though Jimmy Anderson bowled very well, and in Monty and Darymple we finally seem to have a pair of spinners who can slow an game down and regain some sort of control. If we could just find an opening bat along with Strauss - then i think we could be getting somewhere. I like the idea of Mal Loye at the top of the order. He may not always come off but if he does we could be 55/1 off 9 overs rather than 28/0. I know what i'd prefer. You could then have Vaughan at 3, Bell at 4, Collingwood 5, Freddie 6, The Keeper at 7 (whether thats Nixon or not), then Darymple, Lewis, Anderson and then Monty. Not for one second am i saying this team could live with Australia, South Africa, Pakistan or India - but it could possibly stop us getting sucked down into the bottom of the pile. Thoughts?

16th January 2007, 21:33	#2 (permalink)
Loose Cannon Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Third rock from the sun Age: 28 Posts: 1,624	Re: And So England Finally Win A Match I agree. I think it was dangerous for England to start that slowly when you have already got the longest tail in world cricket. If you start slowly and cautious and still lose wickets to either world class balls (which happens) or freakish accidents (which happens a lot with England - suicidal runouts) you are really in trouble. With the lineup they have at the moment I think they have to go for broke. Then again the lack of early runs could be down to a complete lack of confidence. It just seems silly that chasing 207 should be made hard and coming down to the penultimate ball (what if Flintoff hadn't got 2 runs but only a single of the 3rd ball of the last over - leaving Dalrymple on strike?). It should never have been close but they made it close. __________________ I do all my own stunts!

17th January 2007, 09:59	#4 (permalink)
BlindBadger Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 127	Re: And So England Finally Win A Match Robz - by bottom of the pile i literally meant with Bangladesh, Zimbabwe et al. Not bottom of the best, bottom of the lot

17th January 2007, 10:27	#5 (permalink)
robz Platinum Knob Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 605	Re: And So England Finally Win A Match Ahhhh the bottom of THAT pile. Nahhh, even England wouldn't go that low ... __________________ NZ's #1 Sports Blog

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