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do these people play for free? seems an easy choice, gambling for a big prize with no stake. surely you will keep playing til the top prize has gone?

it depends on what the dealers offer means to you.

a good situation can soon become a terrible position so it all depends on what you are willing to "go home" with and is it worth while to continue.

have only seen a few of these but i think the strategy would be different if players had to put up a stake eg a grand
guess it depends on risk profile and what the cash means to the individual
saw the one yesterday where player could have walked away with 20k or gamble to take 750 quid or 75000 (gambled and ended up with 750)

Yes they all play for free - and have to spend up to three weeks in a Bristol hotel as they participate in three games a day until it is their turn.

It is the custom every evening that that day's winners each put £300 behind the bar as a leaving present to the rest!

What if you win 1p? End up £300 down on the deal!

guess it depends on risk profile and what the cash means to the individual

I think you've hit the nail on the head there and that applies to the poker game selection question you were asking about earlier.
Whatever game you play you will never play correctly or go with your instincts if you are scared of losing the money.

Tha game is based n the human emotion of greed.

I don't watch it much but have seen players go on when they clearly should have dealt given the size of the offer considering what was left, and ended up with a lot less money.

I also like to see morons cry when they turn down £20k and end up with next to fuck all because they got greedy.

It would be interesting to see a person who understood odds play on there, but you still need some luck to get through the early rounds.

Who the bloody hell let you in.?

Tha game is based n the human emotion of greed.

I don't watch it much but have seen players go on when they clearly should have dealt given the size of the offer considering what was left, and ended up with a lot less money.

I also like to see morons cry when they turn down £20k and end up with next to fuck all because they got greedy.

It would be interesting to see a person who understood odds play on there, but you still need some luck to get through the early rounds.

But anybody who understood odds would never deal, would they not? The banker never offers a fair shake-out and relies on fear to drive a poor statistical bargain.

(Whatever - it's a good ten-minute game, made unwatchable by 50 minutes of Noel Edmond's shite.)

(Whatever - it's a good ten-minute game, made unwatchable by 50 minutes of Noel Edmond's shite.)

Someone once told me it's an excellent program to Sky+ and then watch at 6x speed. I can see what they meant.

I used to watch it and thought it was good-It's all getting a bit boring now though.The top prize has only been won once,most go away with very little.Also,when did all this 'blue,blue,blue' chanting start? It makes me cringe.

Anyone watch this still? Anyway, the vicar (David) is family. He's keeping schtum as to how much he's won.... but we think he's fucked it up, judging by the sneers he's been getting from his wife :lol: . Will update when he gets the box.

Apparently whenever anyone 'wins' a blue everyone puts a tenner in so at least they walk away with £200 or so.

I wonder who the banker is. Apparently it genuinely is someone who finances it themselves

I'd pay £100k to be banker for 100 shows. I reckon you'd be in profit after 10

the banker is the guy who use to be in corrie who was also on C5s "The Mole"

the banker is the guy who use to be in corrie who was also on C5s "The Mole"

And he actually does it for real money? Thats a HUGE gig if he does

The Mole was bloody brilliant.

From wiki

Glenn Hugill is a British television presenter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_presenter) and producer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_producer) born in Durham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham) in 1970 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970).
He was educated at Barnard Castle School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard_Castle_School) and Christ Church, Oxford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Church%2C_Oxford).
In 1980 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980), as a ten year old schoolboy, he garnered a degree of notoriety when a national I.Q. test designed for under 16's calculated his I.Q. as 207. It was the highest recorded result in the country. Local newspaper The Northern Echo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Northern_Echo) then reported he took another test designed for adults and recorded a result of 177, which was the highest score the test was capable of registering.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
He presented the UK version of The Mole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mole) and is currently the executive producer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_producer) of Channel 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_4) game show Deal or No Deal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_Or_No_Deal_%28UK%29). It has been suggested that he is the mysterious individual known on the show as "The Banker" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Banker_%28Deal_or_No_Deal_UK%29), though this has never been officially confirmed. Previously he produced other cult game shows such as Playing It Straight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playing_It_Straight), Beauty and the Geek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty_and_the_Geek) and Cash Cab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_Cab).
His presenting work on The Mole led to his being voted the 9th best game show host of all time in a nationwide vote led by UK Gameshows.com. He polled ahead of big names such as Anne Robinson, Les Dennis and Graham Norton[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Hugill#_note-0).
He is also a successful writer with credits including the Deal or No Deal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_Or_No_Deal_%28UK%29) annual, the series Beauty and the Geek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty_and_the_Geek) for Channel 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_4), Sky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky) TV's Hollywood Autopsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hollywood_Autopsy&action=editredlink) and the reality crime series Texas S.W.A.T. (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Texas_S.W.A.T.&action=editredlink) in the USA.
He began his career as an actor and director, most recognisable for his time as Alan McKenna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_McKenna) in Coronation Street (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_Street). However he also had a distinguished stage career including major roles for the Royal Shakespeare Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Shakespeare_Company) and Steppenwolf Theatre Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steppenwolf_Theatre_Company) Chicago.
More recently, he added his voicing talents to the successful stunt series Mission Implausible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Implausible) on Sky One (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_One) presented by Jason Plato (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Plato) and Tania Zaetta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tania_Zaetta).
Since the success of Deal or No Deal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_Or_No_Deal_%28UK%29) he has taken a permanent senior position at the production company Endemol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endemol).
He is a fervent supporter of Sunderland AFC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunderland_AFC).

I said I'd update when the family member was on the show. It's on now on C4, and again on C4+1 straight after. Still dunno how much he's won, but it's been a pretty eventful show to say the least! Thr first time ever a box has been revealed with nothing inside it, leading to mass confusion in the studio!

I said I'd update when the family member was on the show. It's on now on C4, and again on C4+1 straight after. Still dunno how much he's won, but it's been a pretty eventful show to say the least! Thr first time ever a box has been revealed with nothing inside it, leading to mass confusion in the studio!

I've always wondered what would happen if someone played the game right to the end only for a box to be 'rouge'.

Update: David won £12,500. He dealt with £50k and £250k still in play. It was a poor call regardless of what happened. He ended up with £15k and £50k as his final boxes and an offer of £26k.

But anybody who understood odds would never deal, would they not? The banker never offers a fair shake-out and relies on fear to drive a poor statistical bargain.

(Whatever - it's a good ten-minute game, made unwatchable by 50 minutes of Noel Edmond's shite.)

The offer was always below EV whenever I sampled the Australian version (I know people who swear it is sometimes +EV, but I suspect they can't add), but what's a good bargain for the contestant is a harder question. Is this a situation where we should apply Kelly reasoning, i.e. maximize the expected logarithm of our bankroll? If so, then accept the deal when


log(offer+A) > sum { log(box(i)+A) } / n
i<n

Where A represents some measure of the player's pre-game bankroll (wealth).

For example, if the remaining boxes are worth 10k and 100k, the player should deal if the offer meets the following thresholds

A Offer
0 31.6k
30k 42.1k
1M 54k

I may have missed some wrinkles in the show because I never watched it from fart to spinach. I agree with the poster who said it is unwatchable. 80% is based on trying to spin something trivial (the choice of boxes) as somehow meaningful and exciting. It would be nice to get on and mock this premise by coldly selecting the boxes in numerical order.

It would be nice to get on and mock this premise by coldly selecting the boxes in numerical order.

The contestant "Geordie" famously did this, and went off with his tail between his legs having dealt for £20! :twisted:

This of course was proof to Noel that he should have taken it more "seriously!" :roll: